Splitboard.com Forums

The World's first exclusive splitboard discussion forums






It is currently Wed Nov 26, 2014 4:00 am

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 68 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: How to build a splitboard WITHOUT a Voile splitkit
PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:29 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:59 am
Posts: 277
Location: Amsterdam
First post, but i've been reading for a few weeks here. Lots of good info on this forum, so i'm sharing my buildprocess hoping it will someday help another newbie out.

My plan and some thoughts:

1. Don't like the Voile solution, too heavy and expensive with real bindings
2. Like Karakoram, but too heavy and expensive too.
3. Don't like any other solutions out there, so building my own.
4. Will probably use Spark Lt Touring brackets, can't see how I can improve on those.
5. DIY is more fun than buying.

Start with my trusted Lib-Tech Dark series 164. Like the board in all conditions, and it's getting old anyway. Board is almost too stiff for me anyway, so will hopefully be perfect when split. Haven't decided if I want to make a swallowtail as some point.

One problem.... it's my only powboard so if I mess up it will end in tears. :lol:

-------------------------------------------------------------------

Taping how my bindings normally are set for backcountry.
Image

Plan A to find the absolute centre of the board; figured if i draw a thin line between the inserts and put a straightedge along that it would be pretty acurate. It wasn't so ditched that idea.

Image

Plan B; A straight piece of MDF wood screwed to the boards inserts. Find the exact middle of the mdf, measure and drill the inserts and use your bindings screws to secure it.
I measured from steeledge to the corner of the mdf, and it was 2 mm off, so I redrilled the holes for the rearbinding a bit and screwed everything back on.
All corners are now 42mm from steeledge to corner (see picture), so even if I mess up with the tablesaw i could still get both sides straight by using the mdf as a guide when sawing.
Image

_________________
http://splitfest.tumblr.com/
Flatland Splitfest


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: How to build a splitboard WITHOUT a Voile splitkit
PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:35 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:59 am
Posts: 277
Location: Amsterdam
Here goes nothing.....
Image

Rockered boards are going to chatter a bit when sawing, but my assistant for the day was too busy taking pictures to lend a hand..
Image
The white tape in the centre is just to prevent the topsheet from chipping, not really a problem with this saw though.
Image

Image

Guess I can never hate on skiers again now :wink:
Image

Turned out perfectly straight and fits too. No need to sand anything.
Image
Image

Image

Now need to start building parts to somehow put it back together.

_________________
http://splitfest.tumblr.com/
Flatland Splitfest


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: How to build a splitboard WITHOUT a Voile splitkit
PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:44 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:59 am
Posts: 277
Location: Amsterdam
Found some old Ride RX binding cheap... Had to be alu based bindings for my plan to work. Plan is to make a new 4x4 binding plate on both halves of the board so I can somehow twist my bindings on to that.
Want to use the original inserts so less holes to fill up.
Still have to figure out the exact design though.

Image

Sides epoxied, not very exiting.
Image
Keep the board straight or it will drip on your base (i'm an idiot)
Image

Making some carbonfibre sheets to use later. Wet layup without vacuumbag, just clamp really tight between two glass plates to get all the epoxy out.
Image
Image
Image

One small sheet finished, this will be the tail/tip clips later.
Image

_________________
http://splitfest.tumblr.com/
Flatland Splitfest


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: How to build a splitboard WITHOUT a Voile splitkit
PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:54 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:59 am
Posts: 277
Location: Amsterdam
Working on the binding interface.

1. Saw the binding disk into a hexagon, and divide in two halves. Screw to the board.
2. Cut the same hexagon out of the binding baseplate, but at a 22.5 degree angle.
3. To attach the binding you slide it over the hexagon like a puzzle, and rotate it untill the corners of the hexagon grab the baseplate.
4. One half of the board has a little "stop" to prevent the binding to rotate further (the white part in the animation)
5. The other half has a skibuckle that latches tha binding to the board.


http://youtu.be/b9krhN7U3Ec

_________________
http://splitfest.tumblr.com/
Flatland Splitfest


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: How to build a splitboard WITHOUT a Voile splitkit
PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:21 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:59 am
Posts: 277
Location: Amsterdam
New plan for the bindings, the hexagon didn't look strong enough. I will make completely new disk out of carbon fiber.

The shape is changed to have more overlap when secured. Same shape will be cut out of the baseplate, when rotated they will lock into place.

Topview:

Image

Topview 3d
Image

Bottom
Image

_________________
http://splitfest.tumblr.com/
Flatland Splitfest


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: How to build a splitboard WITHOUT a Voile splitkit
PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:25 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 6:48 pm
Posts: 675
Location: Kodiak, AK
That binding interface looks brilliant. Great work in general. :D

_________________
Jones Solution 163W
Venture Zephyr 164/260
Never Summer SL 163X
Burton Spliff 148
Voile Mojo RX 166
BD, G3, and Gecko skins
Sparks!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: How to build a splitboard WITHOUT a Voile splitkit
PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:38 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:04 am
Posts: 145
Lets trade shops. I promise you'll thank me some day.
Image
mojomo026 by Huck Pitueee, on Flickr

Stoked to see what you come up with.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: How to build a splitboard WITHOUT a Voile splitkit
PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:43 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Apr 04, 2009 10:32 am
Posts: 584
Location: Dethbridge, AB
Neato, I like where this is going.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: How to build a splitboard WITHOUT a Voile splitkit
PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:38 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:02 pm
Posts: 256
Location: OR
Very cool. Bookmarking this thread.

_________________
"For future reference, the time is now."


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: How to build a splitboard WITHOUT a Voile splitkit
PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:15 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:59 am
Posts: 277
Location: Amsterdam
Huck Pitueee wrote:
Lets trade shops. I promise you'll thank me some day.




Yes, let's do that! My shop is only 600 miles from the nearest mountain, so just 7 hours by car if you're very stoked. How about yours? :lol:

Anybody has some measurements on tail/tipclips? Do they use m5 screws or rivets?

_________________
http://splitfest.tumblr.com/
Flatland Splitfest


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: How to build a splitboard WITHOUT a Voile splitkit
PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:42 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:04 am
Posts: 145
ieism wrote:
Huck Pitueee wrote:
Lets trade shops. I promise you'll thank me some day.




Yes, let's do that! My shop is only 600 miles from the nearest mountain, so just 7 hours by car if you're very stoked. How about yours? :lol:

Anybody has some measurements on tail/tipclips? Do they use m5 screws or rivets?


30 minutes to snow. If it ever snows :banghead:
Umm can I change my mind about the shop?
I like to use screws and epoxy them into the board. Wax the threads first.
The only measurement that is really important is thickness so your skin clips will clear.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: How to build a splitboard WITHOUT a Voile splitkit
PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:43 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:00 pm
Posts: 11
Location: The far side of Canada
Nice work.
I am interested to see how well your binding attachment method works as I am building my own interface as well.
For measurements I went to the Voile site and downloaded the templates.
Here:http://www.voile-usa.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=VEOS&Category_Code=PSB
If you go to each part there is a downloadable template. Just make sure you select "No scaling" from your print setup.

Andy


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: How to build a splitboard WITHOUT a Voile splitkit
PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:20 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:25 am
Posts: 7
Location: SBS, CO
nice thread. keep up the great photos too, makes the thread nice to look at. :D

_________________
eric.hockman
Steamboat Ski & Bike Kare
[bike repair.ski tuning]
http://erichphoto.wordpress.com/
http://steamboatskiandbike.com/


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 68 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 10 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  





Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group