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 Post subject: shopping for a jacket, what is best for touring
PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:25 pm 
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I am shopping for a shell that can be worn from deep resort days to back country touring. What is everyone's favorite

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 Post subject: Re: shopping for a jacket, what is best for touring
PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:01 pm 
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I'm rocking TNF Free Thinker jacket and pants this season (50% off) and digging them very much. Definition of bomber. The jacket may be a little bulky to roll up and stuff in a pack if that's an issue for you, but I manage it in my 30L stuffed with all my other gear without issue. I like the cut (it's a bit loose, but not super baggy), good pockets and traditional design, super bright colour (which I like for touring) - it's 3L Gore Pro shell and sucks badly when you have to wear it skinning up in warm BC coastal rain but find me a Gore Tex shell that doesn't.

Soft shell if you can pull it off! In that department I'm wearing TNF Polar Hooded jacket and/or a TNF Jakson Hybrid jacket (which I also wear under the Gore shell).

I recommend all of the above garments. :doobie:


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:13 pm 
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My thought is a quiver of jackets is best. I have a Mountain Hardware Kepler (sorta softshell) for touring. Breaths awesome. Only jacket I can literally wear all day and never change a layer. Worn it at the resort, but I don't think its ideal, because it can be a little cold. I also want to preserve the jacket. Size up a lot on it, from my experience, funky sizing.

At the resort I wear my older Burton AK. It breaths for crap, but its waterproof and keeps me warm. I can not wear it touring all day. You could try the Mountain Hardware Jovian for everything too. I think DryQ is the shit.


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 Post subject: Re: shopping for a jacket, what is best for touring
PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:01 pm 
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There are a lot of jackets on the market. It can make you crazy. I've really liked the rab line with e-vent. They are very light and pack great but they definetly don't get many style points. They are always on sale somewhere and breath like nobodies business. Also pretty bomber proof. I have a "hybrid" softshell/hardshell strafe that doesn't remove moisture as well as e-vent.


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 Post subject: Re: shopping for a jacket, what is best for touring
PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:15 pm 
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Knowing the climate in which you tour would be helpful if you're trying to get advice on a single, do-it all jacket. If that's the case, recommendations would be quite different for someone touring in the Cascades than they would be for someone touring out here in Montana.

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 Post subject: Re: shopping for a jacket, what is best for touring
PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:15 pm 
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Tahoe, Shasta, eastern Sierra. Obviously the extremes of any area would change the specifics some but a general breathable waterproof shell should cover most situations. Does anybody put there skins inside their jacket. I have never had to do this but if I needed to a big inside pocket I guess would be on the list

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:24 am 
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Patagonia Powslayer. Loving it :twocents:


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 Post subject: Re: shopping for a jacket, what is best for touring
PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:37 am 
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wjb wrote:
Does anybody put there skins inside their jacket.


A few people say they do it. I've done it a couple times when I was a noob with wet skins. It's bulky as hell and I look fat enough already. Is there really a drying effect in the 10-20 your descending? Not to mention your putting wet shit inside your jacket, I thought the point of a jacket is to keep the wet shit out? I can prolly put my skins in my pack quicker than inside my jacket.

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I could go on about carrying your poles too but know one cares and this is a thread about jackets.

Oh yeah, jackets. What works for one won't work for someone else. I pretty much never wear a jacket on the climb up so my needs are different than most. I've yet to find a jacket, soft shell or hard, that I don't overheat in. But I'm not normal, I get hot easy and sweat like a motha.


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 Post subject: Re: shopping for a jacket, what is best for touring
PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:08 am 
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Jackets are definitely something you have to figure out for yourself. Everyone runs at different temps and ride in different environments.
For resort days I use a waterproof hardshell and whatever midlayer is needed. Taking the chair up is a lot colder than skinning.
For bc days, I'm like Ecobrad: I run hot and tend to sweat. Even last week when it was 10 below I was climbing in a long sleeve baselayer shirt. Up on the ridges, when the wind picked up I put on my softshell. For the ride down I use an old REI softshell which was the thinnest I could find. Just wish it had pitzips. They help keep you dry better than any eVent, Goretex, etc. Also, consider if you want a hood or not. For me, it would just get in the way. A lot of times I just wear my helmet on the climb as well since it breathes pretty well and keeps it out of my pack.
I also keep a down sweater in my pack, but it really never comes out. Pretty much just in case of emergencies.

As for skins, I do keep them in my jacket. It's not to dry them out, but to keep them as warm as possible so they're easier to peel apart. If it's the last run of the day I'll toss them in my pack.


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 Post subject: Re: shopping for a jacket, what is best for touring
PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:14 am 
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Ecobrad wrote:
wjb wrote:
Does anybody put there skins inside their jacket.

I've yet to find a jacket, soft shell or hard, that I don't overheat in. But I'm not normal, I get hot easy and sweat like a motha.


That makes two of us. I skin in an Icebreaker 150 long sleeve and soak it through, no matter what the temp. Only layer over it if it's raining or seriously dumping, and it makes me pretty grumpy. All my other shit is for the down or hanging out in the parking lot trying to look cool :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: shopping for a jacket, what is best for touring
PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:22 am 
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wjb wrote:
Does anybody put there skins inside their jacket.


I didn't used to, but have started to do this on lap/yo yo days as I've noticed my skin glue doesn't work as well in low temps once it gets snow on it. Body heat is amazing at heating stuff up rapidly (defrosting a frozen water hose/tube also comes to mind).


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 Post subject: Re: shopping for a jacket, what is best for touring
PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:25 am 
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Gormley Green wrote:
Ecobrad wrote:
wjb wrote:
Does anybody put there skins inside their jacket.

I've yet to find a jacket, soft shell or hard, that I don't overheat in. But I'm not normal, I get hot easy and sweat like a motha.


That makes two of us.
Have you guys tried any of the new technology like DryQ or Neoshell? I was that same way with Gore Tex and Event, but I think that DryQ is way beyond what you get from those others. Neoshell I've read is the same. It breaths from the start, and is waterproof (not as high a waterproof rating as Gore, but doesn't need to be, it's still waterproof). I just change between a long sleeve, short sleeve, or long sleeve with vest depending on the temps. I literally tour all day without changing a layer, and have never been able to do that prior. I used to think I ran hot, but now I think I run normal. My roommate and old roommate always ran hot as well, and both got DryQ, and seem to love it as well for touring. I do keep a puffy in my pack for long breaks where I'd get cold, but I think thats standard with technical shells.

Something to look into for touring I think. :twocents:


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 Post subject: Re: shopping for a jacket, what is best for touring
PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:35 am 
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I definitely run hot as well, even in a snowstorm. So breathability is paramount. Was looking at the Westcomb Switch LT. I thought I needed to get a jacket with a powder skirt but my last one did not have one so I guess I can continue to live without one. Does anybody have experience with Flylow?

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