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 Post subject: Re: New Voile Product Announcement Nov 23rd
PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:11 am 
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I think the BC magazine buyers guide said something about the G3 risers possibly damaging the Spark baseplates. Something about where the additional riser contacts the base. I was confused by that when I read it too.


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 Post subject: Re: New Voile Product Announcement Nov 23rd
PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 8:11 am 
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Hey folks,

The new Voile dual height climbing heels are essentially the same foot print as the current single climbing heel. We checked it with the Spark Ignition II binding and will work fine. We don't have a Fuse sample, but don't see any reason why it would not work.

If anyone has specific questions shoot me a PM.

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 Post subject: Re: New Voile Product Announcement Nov 23rd
PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 7:43 am 
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Yeah Jim, can you clarify that? I don't see any reason atm why they wouldn't work with Sparks. I think your post is the first one I've seen that says this.


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 Post subject: Re: New Voile Product Announcement Nov 23rd
PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 7:41 am 
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jimw wrote:
The dual-height risers seem cool. Too bad they conveniently won't work with Sparks. I'm sure that's not an accident. :)

As far as lifting the riser, it's super-simple with a whippet. It has a nice tab on the pick that works perfectly for grabbing the riser (whippet use #37).


What makes you think that they aren't compatible with Sparks?
The design is identical to the single climbing bar so why would they suddenly not work? It's also almost exactly what I've got with the G3 heel pads I'm using with Sparks and I haven't found a single issue with function (they're ugly as hell but they work flawlessly).
Plus, it would be really silly for Voile to design and market something that purposely excluded a significant portion of the user group.


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 Post subject: Re: New Voile Product Announcement Nov 23rd
PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:29 am 
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The dual-height risers seem cool. Too bad they conveniently won't work with Sparks. I'm sure that's not an accident. :)

As far as lifting the riser, it's super-simple with a whippet. It has a nice tab on the pick that works perfectly for grabbing the riser (whippet use #37).


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 Post subject: Re: New Voile Product Announcement Nov 23rd
PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:12 pm 
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I'm gonna stop using poles then. :wink: :D

Treepilot - lets get a pair to you and you can try and break 'em. :P

Looks like a good product. Much better than the proto I remember seeing.

I do think there is an advantage in having more baseplate in contact with the board.

Best of luck Voile.


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 Post subject: Re: New Voile Product Announcement Nov 23rd
PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:23 pm 
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Ecobrad wrote:
Somebody in a post above said that they don't feel wanting as far as two climbing bar heights go, +1 until I see 2 bar dudes flying by me.


By far the fastest climber I know doesn't use the bars at all... I've never seem him use them even on the steepest tracks.

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 Post subject: Re: New Voile Product Announcement Nov 23rd
PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:38 pm 
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Killclimbz wrote:
I always access my risers with my pole. Just flip it over and use the handle to pop them up. Not so sure it'll be as effective with the double post, bit it will certainly work on the higher riser.


I have been running th G3 dual risers and the poles work fine. I just leave the short one up if I put up the tall one since it does not get in the way. Simplifies things.


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 Post subject: Re: New Voile Product Announcement Nov 23rd
PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:13 pm 
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wow, it never occurred to me to pop up the riser with my hands. That seems like so much work compared to the pole method.

it really is too bad I can't demo both the Fuse and the Light Rail. I'm way too poor to gamble with three hundred bucks. I can't wait for the reviews to start rolling in.

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 Post subject: Re: New Voile Product Announcement Nov 23rd
PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:24 pm 
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182 Surf de neige wrote:
Just a thought though, a truer vision, MAybe Snowshoe Thompson would ve admired the SB so much , and would ve maybe said, " WoW!... Gotta get me one of those Voile Split Boards"


Hahaha nice we can only speculate! I'd be pissed if I were him though- what a misnomer "snowshoe" is. Haha.

Wanted to add that I found this a couple months ago I think right on this forum... posted on youtube almost a year ago:



I was surprised how simple avalanche release could be implemented. The Voile release does not appear to be much more sophisticated than that so I'm somewhat dismissive of this feature...


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 Post subject: Re: New Voile Product Announcement Nov 23rd
PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:25 pm 
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Hey bcrider, what kind of oath of secrecy did you have to take? I won't judge these things until (if) I get a chance to try them out. But as mentioned before, the Sparks have a clear advantage with crampons. I think any of us would have been stoked to have these bindings just a couple years ago. I didn't think there was much progress to be made after the initial Sparks were produced, but Will stepped it up with the Fuse, so who know what we'll see down the line. Competition, and options, are good.
And just for the record, I always reach down to flip my climbing bar - I guess I'm still a NOOB? :lol: I figure if I am going to climb a few thousand feet with 25 pounds on my back, bending down is not really much effort.
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budge wrote:
I can't imagine that the highbacks, ratchets and straps could be a downgrade from the Bent Metal stuff, it would be hard to run the bar lower than that!!!


I'm surprised to read this. I've been running bent metals or gnu bindings for 8 seasons now on my non split boards and have been very happy with them.

The Bent Metal straps are awful. Nuff said.
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So what happens when you pull the "avy rip cord" on one binding but miss the other? Too bad it's not one pull for both bindings. Boo on the rip cord idea.

Think the Fuse II will include a swiss cheese baseplate?

That's an easy fix with one cord connecting both bindings, though I'm in the camp that does not want to release at all - or at least until the point at which it would be impossible to do so anyways.

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 Post subject: Re: New Voile Product Announcement Nov 23rd
PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:34 am 
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I haven't bent over to raise or lower my climbing bars in years. Nothing says NOOB splitter like that. ;)

Seriously though, it takes a little getting used to but it all comes down to technique. You do it the same way every single time and it will eventually become second nature. You can do it with regular approach poles or whippets, I prefer the latter and always use two of em. I'll make sure to post a quick little video on how to do it soon.

As for testing, people are tripping if they cant realize these bindings have been tested extensively.


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 Post subject: Re: New Voile Product Announcement Nov 23rd
PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:52 am 
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Yes, I'd have to say the Light Rails have been tested thoroughly. I saw them being tested last season in the Wasatch by at least two rider's. One of which rides with a whippet in hand (if that tells you anything), and another who's lines I've personally skinned/ridden. I'm fairly confident there were others as well, among them BCRider based on his post.

For me its really a matter of who gets their inventory together the quickest, but eventually I'm sure I will add both the Light Rail and the Fuse to my quiver.

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