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 Post subject: Re: New Voile Product Announcement Nov 23rd
PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:46 pm 
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Does the new voile binding conflict with the spark patent?

lol, good one :P

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 Post subject: Re: New Voile Product Announcement Nov 23rd
PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 3:45 pm 
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Does the new voile binding conflict with the spark patent?


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 Post subject: Re: New Voile Product Announcement Nov 23rd
PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:13 am 
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bones get broke wrote:
jimw wrote:
The dual-height risers seem cool. Too bad they conveniently won't work with Sparks. I'm sure that's not an accident. :)

As far as lifting the riser, it's super-simple with a whippet. It has a nice tab on the pick that works perfectly for grabbing the riser (whippet use #37).


What makes you think that they aren't compatible with Sparks?
The design is identical to the single climbing bar so why would they suddenly not work? It's also almost exactly what I've got with the G3 heel pads I'm using with Sparks and I haven't found a single issue with function (they're ugly as hell but they work flawlessly).

Guess I need to check the forum more often... :)

I stand corrected since Dave says they work. What I ASS-umed would be the problem is that the second riser folds down behind the climbing block, as opposed to in front like the normal climbing wires, and I thought this would interfere with the back of the Spark binding. The Spark binding is solid across the entire bottom of the back of the baseplate, whereas the Voile one has a gap. But I forgot that the Sparks still hit the block on the climbing bar pad, so the bottom of the back of the of the baseplate doesn't go all the way to the board, so there should still be room for the second climbing bar.

Sorry for the confusion and false "accusation". I'm stoked to hear that it will work with Sparks.

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Plus, it would be really silly for Voile to design and market something that purposely excluded a significant portion of the user group.

You might be surprised how often companies do just that... Glad to hear that is not the case here.


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 Post subject: Re: New Voile Product Announcement Nov 23rd
PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:49 am 
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The avy pull can be removed.


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 Post subject: Re: New Voile Product Announcement Nov 23rd
PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:01 am 
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i can pretty much guarantee voile won't just sell the rails alone.

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 Post subject: Re: New Voile Product Announcement Nov 23rd
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What about just buying just the rails and drilling holes to fit them onto your own metal binding base????.
I like to save the :twocents:

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 Post subject: Re: New Voile Product Announcement Nov 23rd
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There's a note on that in the BCMag review. Mike Horn was more worried about the avy release cable getting caught while skinning than riding down . Also, the positioning of the toolless strap adjustments caused a bit of frustration on the skin, but not too big a deal it sounds like.

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 Post subject: Re: New Voile Product Announcement Nov 23rd
PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 2:57 pm 
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I think the avy release looks scary. If a branch catches that thing... oofah.


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 Post subject: Re: New Voile Product Announcement Nov 23rd
PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 5:32 pm 
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bcrider wrote:
To anyone offended by my noob joke, I apologize. If you prefer to bend down to raise your climbing bars more power to you.


I was offended. Big time.

But then I read that you're doing it with your whippet poles, and I thought to myself “well, nothing says NOOB splitter like carrying a whippet”. So I guess we're even. :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:

I'm pretty excited to try out these bindings, though we're gonna need more snow first.
Competition is good, and if the market is big enough to handle two different binding companies, then obviously that means the sport is growing. Hopefully this will ultimately lead to the next step, which is a snowboard mountaineering boot.

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 Post subject: Re: New Voile Product Announcement Nov 23rd
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To anyone offended by my noob joke, I apologize. If you prefer to bend down to raise your climbing bars more power to you. :thumbsup:

When you get to be my age you look for anything you can to save a little energy. :)



ps. Thanks for chiming in Dave! :headbang:


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 Post subject: Re: New Voile Product Announcement Nov 23rd
PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 3:40 pm 
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Wtf, I flick my risers up almost always by hand. I guess I'm a noob.


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 Post subject: Re: New Voile Product Announcement Nov 23rd
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 Post subject: Re: New Voile Product Announcement Nov 23rd
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The thing that I would like to see worked on is better skin glue. I started using mine in may and as of November it is a battle to retain the stickyness after about two runs. Thank god for Duct tape :wink: .

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